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	<title>Comments on: 515 &#8211; Down Here Below</title>
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		<title>By: Neil Creek</title>
		<link>http://manessinger.com/2008/03/515-down-here-below.html/comment-page-1#comment-2050</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Creek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks partly to your inspiration, I&#039;ve had a little experiment with this idea myself! I&#039;m pretty happy with the results and I&#039;m looking forward to trying it on some interesting subjects :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://neil.creek.name/blog/2008/03/29/fisheye-at-foot-level-p365-mar13/&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks partly to your inspiration, I&#8217;ve had a little experiment with this idea myself! I&#8217;m pretty happy with the results and I&#8217;m looking forward to trying it on some interesting subjects <img src='http://manessinger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://neil.creek.name/blog/2008/03/29/fisheye-at-foot-level-p365-mar13/" rel="nofollow">http://neil.creek.name/blog/2008/03/29/fisheye-at-foot-level-p365-mar13/</a></p>
<p>Thanks for the idea!</p>
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		<title>By: mcmurma</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcmurma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care by what means you acquired these results... As long as no one was injured :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great image. I love it. Lots of dynamics going on here. Part of it is no doubt perspective induced, but another part is just plain cool, no matter how you look at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care by what means you acquired these results&#8230; As long as no one was injured <img src='http://manessinger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Great image. I love it. Lots of dynamics going on here. Part of it is no doubt perspective induced, but another part is just plain cool, no matter how you look at it.</p>
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		<title>By: advman</title>
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		<dc:creator>advman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more you go random, the more you have to rely on automatic repetition and numbers. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s clear, your extreme of the camera shipped randomly around, randomly triggered, taking completely random images, would produce pictures that you could hardly claim as your&#039;s, and the art portion of the whole act would shift into the performance itself, i.e. what could be considered art and in fact would so, albeit only by a tiny minority, is the act of packing a camera into a box, randomly shipping it, retrieving the images and claiming it art. That&#039;s a tad self-referential, but contemporary art is frequently like that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In my case things were comparably controlled, not much was random here. I wanted an image like that, I have checked in between, have made corrections to the way I held the monopod, and I stopped doing so when I had a sufficient result. Technically that&#039;s not much different from trying the same shot  again because you&#039;ve not been able to hold it at a low shutter speed.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just to make sure, this is not an excuse. In fact I think the idea with the randomly shipped camera is  great and I would love to try it, it is only not very practical. Nevertheless, I would maybe not exactly claim the images mine, but I would sure claim the act my art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more you go random, the more you have to rely on automatic repetition and numbers. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear, your extreme of the camera shipped randomly around, randomly triggered, taking completely random images, would produce pictures that you could hardly claim as your&#8217;s, and the art portion of the whole act would shift into the performance itself, i.e. what could be considered art and in fact would so, albeit only by a tiny minority, is the act of packing a camera into a box, randomly shipping it, retrieving the images and claiming it art. That&#8217;s a tad self-referential, but contemporary art is frequently like that.</p>
<p>In my case things were comparably controlled, not much was random here. I wanted an image like that, I have checked in between, have made corrections to the way I held the monopod, and I stopped doing so when I had a sufficient result. Technically that&#8217;s not much different from trying the same shot  again because you&#8217;ve not been able to hold it at a low shutter speed.</p>
<p>Just to make sure, this is not an excuse. In fact I think the idea with the randomly shipped camera is  great and I would love to try it, it is only not very practical. Nevertheless, I would maybe not exactly claim the images mine, but I would sure claim the act my art.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Byrne</title>
		<link>http://manessinger.com/2008/03/515-down-here-below.html/comment-page-1#comment-2047</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay... if an image is random... izzit art? Suppose I shipped a camera inside of a package with a tiny hole and a random shutter tripper. When I retrieved the package and brought the images into Bridge... could I, without cropping or enhancement display any of them as.. mine? If not mine, whose? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The results of camera tossing still assume that &quot;place&quot; was chosen by the &quot;artist&quot; so there&#039;s still some subjective component of the final image. Add in time and I suppose the act of choosing one out of a burst of images all add up to an artistic communication. Or do they? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yeah, this is a fascinating image. But am I the one who creates art when the image is random? And what is then your role? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Too deep for me....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230; if an image is random&#8230; izzit art? Suppose I shipped a camera inside of a package with a tiny hole and a random shutter tripper. When I retrieved the package and brought the images into Bridge&#8230; could I, without cropping or enhancement display any of them as.. mine? If not mine, whose? </p>
<p>The results of camera tossing still assume that &#8220;place&#8221; was chosen by the &#8220;artist&#8221; so there&#8217;s still some subjective component of the final image. Add in time and I suppose the act of choosing one out of a burst of images all add up to an artistic communication. Or do they? </p>
<p>Yeah, this is a fascinating image. But am I the one who creates art when the image is random? And what is then your role? </p>
<p>Too deep for me&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: advman</title>
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		<dc:creator>advman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No crop at all, no cloning, no nothing. Well, apart from those contrast and color enhancements :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No crop at all, no cloning, no nothing. Well, apart from those contrast and color enhancements <img src='http://manessinger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how much the photo was cropped? The composition looks rather planned - luck or plan or both?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And, yeah, I guess people will remember you...:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how much the photo was cropped? The composition looks rather planned &#8211; luck or plan or both?</p>
<p>And, yeah, I guess people will remember you&#8230;:)</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Frei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas Frei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice photo, Andreas!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I like the &quot;speed&quot; of the asphalt in the foreground and the deep view down the street.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cheers&lt;br/&gt;Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice photo, Andreas!</p>
<p>I like the &#8220;speed&#8221; of the asphalt in the foreground and the deep view down the street.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />Andreas</p>
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		<title>By: Steffen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that&#039;s a lot of fun! I have to try this one day, when I have a monopod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s a lot of fun! I have to try this one day, when I have a monopod.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Birtch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Birtch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool image and I love this idea.  I just bought a Gorilla Pod and can now picture myself, camera mounted on at ground level or even the back of my wheelchair, remote shutter release in hand snapping images from viewpoints I&#039;d never imagined possible.  Now if it would just stop snowing and warm up a bit, I&#039;d be all set.   Thanks for sharing this one Andreas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool image and I love this idea.  I just bought a Gorilla Pod and can now picture myself, camera mounted on at ground level or even the back of my wheelchair, remote shutter release in hand snapping images from viewpoints I&#8217;d never imagined possible.  Now if it would just stop snowing and warm up a bit, I&#8217;d be all set.   Thanks for sharing this one Andreas.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh ja das ist sehr gut. Ich wollte immer wissen, was rauskommt, wenn man eine Kamera in die Luft wirft und sie von selbst Serien schiesst. Der Gehstock ist da fast noch besser. :-)&lt;br/&gt;lg&lt;br/&gt;Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh ja das ist sehr gut. Ich wollte immer wissen, was rauskommt, wenn man eine Kamera in die Luft wirft und sie von selbst Serien schiesst. Der Gehstock ist da fast noch besser. <img src='http://manessinger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />lg<br />Michael</p>
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